From the bottom perspective, the Hindulotine position represents an offensive attacking opportunity where you have secured a guillotine grip on your opponent while using your body position to create rotational pressure on their neck. This bottom perspective typically occurs when you’ve pulled guard or been taken down while maintaining head control, allowing you to establish the choke from your back with your legs either in closed guard, butterfly guard, or configured to control your opponent’s hips.
The bottom Hindulotine differs from standard guard-based guillotines in the angle and mechanics of the finish. Rather than simply pulling your opponent’s head down toward your chest, you create a perpendicular or angular hip position that generates torque on the neck. Your legs play a crucial role in preventing your opponent from posturing up or circling to relieve pressure, while your grip creates the direct choking force.
From bottom Hindulotine, your primary goal is to finish the submission through precise angle adjustments and grip optimization. However, this position also offers excellent control that can be maintained while you adjust your attack or transition to other submissions. The key challenge from bottom is preventing your opponent from using their weight and pressure to flatten you out while maintaining the tight grip necessary for the choke.
Success from bottom Hindulotine requires understanding the interplay between your grip, your hip angle, and your leg configuration. Beginners often make the mistake of trying to muscle the submission using arm strength alone, while advanced practitioners understand that small adjustments in body position can dramatically increase pressure. The bottom perspective also requires awareness of your opponent’s passing attempts, as giving up the position while loosening your grip eliminates your attacking opportunity entirely.
Position Definition
- Your guillotine grip is secured around opponent’s neck with your arm wrapped under their chin, hands locked together using gable grip or arm-in configuration, creating direct pressure on the carotid arteries and trachea while your forearm or wrist blade is positioned high under the chin for maximum choking efficiency
- Your hips are positioned at an angle to your opponent’s body rather than directly underneath them, creating the leverage angle necessary for rotational pressure on the neck, with your lower back and hips actively engaged to generate torque rather than relying solely on arm strength
- Your legs are configured to control opponent’s posture and prevent escape, either with closed guard controlling their hips, butterfly hooks allowing angle adjustments, or strategic foot placement preventing them from achieving the posture necessary to relieve neck pressure
- Opponent’s head is trapped and controlled with their posture broken forward, unable to achieve vertical alignment or extract their head from your grip, typically with their spine curved and head lower than their hips due to the combined grip and body pressure
- Your body remains connected to opponent without creating space that would allow them to establish defensive frames or achieve the angle necessary to relieve the choking pressure on their neck
Prerequisites
- Opponent’s head must be available for guillotine grip establishment, typically during takedown attempts, guard pulls, or scrambles where their head passes below your chest line
- Your ability to secure the guillotine grip before opponent establishes defensive posture or gets their chin tucked and arms framed
- Sufficient hip mobility and core strength to create and maintain the angled position necessary for rotational pressure rather than straight pulling mechanics
- Leg positioning that controls opponent’s hips and prevents them from achieving the circular movement or posture that would relieve neck pressure
- Grip endurance to maintain maximum pressure on the neck while making body position adjustments and responding to defensive movements
Key Defensive Principles
- Grip must be established high on the neck under the chin before opponent can achieve defensive posture
- Hip angle creates the mechanical advantage - position hips perpendicular to opponent’s spine for rotational pressure
- Legs control opponent’s ability to circle out or posture up - use closed guard, butterfly hooks, or strategic foot placement
- Core rotation generates finishing pressure more effectively than arm strength alone
- Make incremental grip adjustments without loosening pressure when opponent defends
- Opponent’s defensive movements create transition opportunities to sweep, take the back, or switch submissions
- Prevent opponent’s near-side shoulder from creating a defensive frame between their body and yours
Available Escapes
Guillotine Choke → Won by Submission
Success Rates:
- Beginner: 35%
- Intermediate: 55%
- Advanced: 75%
Transition to Darce Choke → D’arce Control
Success Rates:
- Beginner: 30%
- Intermediate: 50%
- Advanced: 70%
Transition to Anaconda Choke → Anaconda Control
Success Rates:
- Beginner: 25%
- Intermediate: 45%
- Advanced: 65%
Sweep to Mount → Mount
Success Rates:
- Beginner: 30%
- Intermediate: 50%
- Advanced: 65%
Back Take from Bottom → Back Control
Success Rates:
- Beginner: 35%
- Intermediate: 55%
- Advanced: 70%
Arm Triangle Transition → Side Control
Success Rates:
- Beginner: 25%
- Intermediate: 40%
- Advanced: 60%
High Elbow Guillotine Variation → Won by Submission
Success Rates:
- Beginner: 30%
- Intermediate: 50%
- Advanced: 70%
Butterfly Sweep with Guillotine → Mount
Success Rates:
- Beginner: 35%
- Intermediate: 50%
- Advanced: 65%
Decision Making from This Position
If opponent maintains strong posture and prevents you from breaking them down:
- Execute Closed Guard Recovery → Closed Guard (Probability: 50%)
- Execute Butterfly Hook Setup → Butterfly Guard (Probability: 45%)
If opponent drives forward with pressure trying to flatten you out:
- Execute Butterfly Sweep with Guillotine → Mount (Probability: 55%)
- Execute Angle Adjustment for Finish → Won by Submission (Probability: 50%)
If opponent turns away to escape the choking pressure:
- Execute Back Take from Bottom → Back Control (Probability: 70%)
- Execute Transition to Anaconda → Anaconda Control (Probability: 55%)
If opponent creates defensive frame with near-side arm:
- Execute Transition to Darce Choke → D’arce Control (Probability: 60%)
- Execute Arm Triangle Transition → Side Control (Probability: 45%)
Escape and Survival Paths
Guard pull to submission
Standing Position → Pull guard → Closed Guard → Hindulotine Bottom → Guillotine Choke → Won by Submission
Failed takedown counter from bottom
Standing Position → Opponent Shoots Takedown → Pull guard with Guillotine → Hindulotine Bottom → Guillotine Choke → Won by Submission
Butterfly guard attack
Butterfly Guard → Guillotine Setup → Hindulotine Bottom → Guillotine Choke → Won by Submission
Scramble to submission
Scramble Position → Guillotine Grip → Hindulotine Bottom → Guillotine Choke → Won by Submission
Success Rates and Statistics
| Skill Level | Retention Rate | Advancement Probability | Submission Probability |
|---|---|---|---|
| Beginner | 45% | 35% | 30% |
| Intermediate | 65% | 55% | 50% |
| Advanced | 80% | 75% | 70% |
Average Time in Position: 20-45 seconds