The Rolling Back Take is a dynamic and highly effective transition from top turtle position to back control. This technique exploits the opponent’s defensive posture by using momentum and timing to roll over their shoulder, landing directly on their back with control. Unlike static back takes that rely on breaking down the turtle position incrementally, the rolling back take uses explosive movement to bypass defensive frames entirely. This technique is particularly valuable when the opponent maintains a strong defensive turtle with their elbows tight to their knees, making traditional hook insertions difficult. The rolling back take requires precise timing, spatial awareness, and the ability to maintain connection throughout the roll. When executed correctly, it provides immediate access to high-value control positions and submission opportunities, making it a favorite among competitors at all levels.

From Position: Turtle (Top)

Key Attacking Principles

What are the key principles for executing Rolling Back Take?

  • Maintain constant connection with opponent’s upper body throughout the roll
  • Use momentum and gravity rather than pure strength to complete the rotation
  • Control the near shoulder to prevent opponent from turning into you during the roll
  • Time the roll when opponent is static or pushing back into you
  • Land with hooks already threatening to establish immediate back control
  • Keep your head tight to opponent’s shoulder to maintain positional control during rotation
  • Use your free hand to guide the roll and control landing position

Prerequisites

What do you need before attempting Rolling Back Take?

  • Opponent in defensive turtle position with head down and elbows tight
  • Strong grip on opponent’s far shoulder or collar
  • Your chest pressure on opponent’s upper back
  • Near-side control of opponent’s shoulder or head
  • Clear mat space on the side you intend to roll
  • Opponent’s weight distributed evenly or slightly back toward you

Execution Steps

How do you execute Rolling Back Take step by step?

  1. Establish upper body control: From top turtle, secure a strong grip on the opponent’s far shoulder with your near arm reaching under their armpit, while your other hand controls their near shoulder or wraps around their head. Your chest should be heavy on their upper back, preventing them from standing up.
  2. Load your weight onto opponent: Shift your bodyweight forward and slightly to the side you intend to roll, loading your chest onto the opponent’s upper back and shoulder. Your head should be positioned tight to their shoulder blade with your chin tucked. This loading creates the foundation for the rolling momentum.
  3. Initiate the roll: Drive forward over the opponent’s shoulder while pulling their far shoulder toward you. Simultaneously tuck your chin and begin the forward roll, using your head and shoulder to guide the rotation. Your hips should follow in a smooth arc over the opponent’s shoulder line.
  4. Maintain connection during rotation: As you rotate through the roll, keep your arms locked around the opponent’s upper body. Your near-side arm stays wrapped around their head or shoulder while your far-side grip maintains connection to their far shoulder. Your body should remain tight to theirs throughout the entire rotation to prevent separation.
  5. Control the landing: As you complete the rotation and approach the mat, extend your far leg to serve as a base and control your landing speed. Your opponent should rotate with you, ending up with their back toward the mat and you on top of them. Keep your grips tight to prevent them from turning back toward you.
  6. Insert first hook: Immediately upon landing, thread your near-side leg inside the opponent’s near hip, establishing your first hook. Your heel should be inside their thigh with your knee bent. Simultaneously, use your chest pressure to flatten them and prevent them from turning back into turtle.
  7. Establish back control: With the first hook secured, insert your second hook on the opposite side while transitioning your grips to a seat belt control (one arm over shoulder, one under armpit). Drive your hooks deep, get your hips underneath the opponent, and establish full back control position with both hooks in and seat belt locked.

Possible Outcomes

ResultPositionProbability
SuccessBack Control75%
FailureTurtle15%
CounterTurtle10%

Opponent Counters

How might your opponent counter Rolling Back Take?

  • Opponent posts their far arm wide to prevent the roll (Effectiveness: High) - Your Response: Switch to a traditional back take by removing their posted arm and inserting your near hook, or use their extended arm as an opportunity to transition to an armbar or crucifix position → Leads to Turtle
  • Opponent turns into you during the roll to reestablish guard (Effectiveness: Medium) - Your Response: Maintain tight shoulder control and redirect to a scramble position or mount if they turn. Use your momentum to stay on top of the rotation and prevent them from recovering guard → Leads to Turtle
  • Opponent bases out with their head to stop the rotation (Effectiveness: Medium) - Your Response: If they prevent the roll, immediately transition to a crucifix position by controlling their posted arm, or switch to a traditional turtle breakdown by removing their posting base → Leads to Turtle
  • Opponent sprawls backward as you initiate the roll (Effectiveness: Low) - Your Response: Use their backward momentum to accelerate your roll, pulling them over with you. Their sprawl actually aids your rotation if you maintain upper body connection → Leads to Back Control

Common Attacking Mistakes

What mistakes should you avoid when executing Rolling Back Take?

1. Rolling without securing upper body control first

  • Consequence: Opponent easily separates during the roll and escapes to guard or standing position
  • Correction: Always establish solid grips on both shoulders or head/shoulder combination before initiating the roll. Wait for opponent to settle into static position

2. Rolling too slowly or hesitantly

  • Consequence: Opponent has time to post and prevent the rotation, or turn into you during the roll
  • Correction: Execute the roll explosively and commit fully. The technique relies on momentum and speed to bypass defensive reactions

3. Releasing grips during the rotation

  • Consequence: Opponent separates and escapes, often ending in neutral position or opponent on top
  • Correction: Maintain tight grips throughout the entire roll. Your arms should feel locked around their upper body from start to finish

4. Landing with extended legs instead of hooking immediately

  • Consequence: Opponent uses the space to turn back into you or escape to turtle before back control is established
  • Correction: Begin threading your first hook during the landing phase. Your legs should be ready to hook before you hit the mat

5. Rolling with insufficient forward pressure

  • Consequence: Roll stalls midway through or you land beside opponent instead of on their back
  • Correction: Load your weight onto opponent before initiating and drive forward over their shoulder. Use gravity and momentum rather than trying to muscle the roll

6. Attempting the roll when opponent’s weight is too far forward

  • Consequence: Opponent easily counters by posting or you roll past them without maintaining connection
  • Correction: Wait for opponent to have neutral or slightly backward weight distribution. Create this by applying chest pressure to drive them back slightly

Training Progressions

How do you train Rolling Back Take (Attacker)?

Week 1-2: Mechanics Introduction - Basic rolling motion and body mechanics Practice the forward roll motion solo to develop comfort with the rotation. Progress to practicing with a completely passive partner in turtle position, focusing solely on maintaining connection and completing the rotation smoothly. No resistance at this stage.

Week 3-4: Grip Control and Timing - Proper grip sequences and entry timing Partner provides light resistance by maintaining turtle structure but not actively defending. Focus on establishing correct grips, loading weight effectively, and timing the roll initiation. Practice recognizing when opponent’s weight distribution is optimal for the technique.

Week 5-8: Hook Insertion and Position Consolidation - Transitioning from roll to back control Partner provides moderate resistance during hook insertion phase. Practice landing and immediately establishing first hook, then securing seat belt and second hook. Work on preventing opponent from turning back into turtle after the roll.

Week 9-12: Counter Defense and Adaptations - Responding to common counters and variations Partner actively defends with common counters (posting arm, turning in, sprawling). Practice recognizing and responding to each counter with appropriate adjustments. Begin chaining to alternative techniques when the roll is denied.

Week 13+: Competition Application - Live implementation and timing refinement Incorporate the rolling back take into live rolling from top turtle position. Partner provides full resistance. Focus on recognizing the correct moment to execute and successfully completing against actively defending opponents. Track success rate and refine timing based on results.

Safety Considerations

What are the safety concerns for Rolling Back Take?

The rolling back take requires controlled execution to ensure safety for both practitioners. Apply smooth, progressive momentum rather than explosive jerking motions that could injure the neck or spine. Ensure adequate mat space exists on the side you intend to roll to prevent injury from hitting obstacles or mat edges. When practicing, gradually build up to full-speed execution, starting with slow-motion repetitions to develop proper mechanics. Partners should tap if they feel uncomfortable during the rotation or if neck pressure becomes excessive. The practitioner executing the roll should be aware of their landing and avoid driving their weight into the opponent’s neck or head. Both practitioners should maintain awareness of other training partners to avoid collisions during the dynamic rolling motion.