The Rolling Back Take is a dynamic and highly effective transition from top turtle position to back control. This technique exploits the opponent’s defensive posture by using momentum and timing to roll over their shoulder, landing directly on their back with control. Unlike static back takes that rely on breaking down the turtle position incrementally, the rolling back take uses explosive movement to bypass defensive frames entirely. This technique is particularly valuable when the opponent maintains a strong defensive turtle with their elbows tight to their knees, making traditional hook insertions difficult. The rolling back take requires precise timing, spatial awareness, and the ability to maintain connection throughout the roll. When executed correctly, it provides immediate access to high-value control positions and submission opportunities, making it a favorite among competitors at all levels.
From Position: Turtle (Top)
Key Attacking Principles
What are the key principles for executing Rolling Back Take?
- Maintain constant connection with opponent’s upper body throughout the roll
- Use momentum and gravity rather than pure strength to complete the rotation
- Control the near shoulder to prevent opponent from turning into you during the roll
- Time the roll when opponent is static or pushing back into you
- Land with hooks already threatening to establish immediate back control
- Keep your head tight to opponent’s shoulder to maintain positional control during rotation
- Use your free hand to guide the roll and control landing position
Prerequisites
What do you need before attempting Rolling Back Take?
- Opponent in defensive turtle position with head down and elbows tight
- Strong grip on opponent’s far shoulder or collar
- Your chest pressure on opponent’s upper back
- Near-side control of opponent’s shoulder or head
- Clear mat space on the side you intend to roll
- Opponent’s weight distributed evenly or slightly back toward you
Execution Steps
How do you execute Rolling Back Take step by step?
- Establish upper body control: From top turtle, secure a strong grip on the opponent’s far shoulder with your near arm reaching under their armpit, while your other hand controls their near shoulder or wraps around their head. Your chest should be heavy on their upper back, preventing them from standing up.
- Load your weight onto opponent: Shift your bodyweight forward and slightly to the side you intend to roll, loading your chest onto the opponent’s upper back and shoulder. Your head should be positioned tight to their shoulder blade with your chin tucked. This loading creates the foundation for the rolling momentum.
- Initiate the roll: Drive forward over the opponent’s shoulder while pulling their far shoulder toward you. Simultaneously tuck your chin and begin the forward roll, using your head and shoulder to guide the rotation. Your hips should follow in a smooth arc over the opponent’s shoulder line.
- Maintain connection during rotation: As you rotate through the roll, keep your arms locked around the opponent’s upper body. Your near-side arm stays wrapped around their head or shoulder while your far-side grip maintains connection to their far shoulder. Your body should remain tight to theirs throughout the entire rotation to prevent separation.
- Control the landing: As you complete the rotation and approach the mat, extend your far leg to serve as a base and control your landing speed. Your opponent should rotate with you, ending up with their back toward the mat and you on top of them. Keep your grips tight to prevent them from turning back toward you.
- Insert first hook: Immediately upon landing, thread your near-side leg inside the opponent’s near hip, establishing your first hook. Your heel should be inside their thigh with your knee bent. Simultaneously, use your chest pressure to flatten them and prevent them from turning back into turtle.
- Establish back control: With the first hook secured, insert your second hook on the opposite side while transitioning your grips to a seat belt control (one arm over shoulder, one under armpit). Drive your hooks deep, get your hips underneath the opponent, and establish full back control position with both hooks in and seat belt locked.
Possible Outcomes
| Result | Position | Probability |
|---|---|---|
| Success | Back Control | 75% |
| Failure | Turtle | 15% |
| Counter | Turtle | 10% |
Opponent Counters
How might your opponent counter Rolling Back Take?
- Opponent posts their far arm wide to prevent the roll (Effectiveness: High) - Your Response: Switch to a traditional back take by removing their posted arm and inserting your near hook, or use their extended arm as an opportunity to transition to an armbar or crucifix position → Leads to Turtle
- Opponent turns into you during the roll to reestablish guard (Effectiveness: Medium) - Your Response: Maintain tight shoulder control and redirect to a scramble position or mount if they turn. Use your momentum to stay on top of the rotation and prevent them from recovering guard → Leads to Turtle
- Opponent bases out with their head to stop the rotation (Effectiveness: Medium) - Your Response: If they prevent the roll, immediately transition to a crucifix position by controlling their posted arm, or switch to a traditional turtle breakdown by removing their posting base → Leads to Turtle
- Opponent sprawls backward as you initiate the roll (Effectiveness: Low) - Your Response: Use their backward momentum to accelerate your roll, pulling them over with you. Their sprawl actually aids your rotation if you maintain upper body connection → Leads to Back Control
Safety Considerations
What are the safety concerns for Rolling Back Take?
The rolling back take requires controlled execution to ensure safety for both practitioners. Apply smooth, progressive momentum rather than explosive jerking motions that could injure the neck or spine. Ensure adequate mat space exists on the side you intend to roll to prevent injury from hitting obstacles or mat edges. When practicing, gradually build up to full-speed execution, starting with slow-motion repetitions to develop proper mechanics. Partners should tap if they feel uncomfortable during the rotation or if neck pressure becomes excessive. The practitioner executing the roll should be aware of their landing and avoid driving their weight into the opponent’s neck or head. Both practitioners should maintain awareness of other training partners to avoid collisions during the dynamic rolling motion.