LLM Context: Submission Data Structure
Purpose: The Reverse Kimura is a shoulder lock applied with opponent’s arm trapped behind their back in “chicken wing” or “hammerlock” position. It’s a terminal state resulting in shoulder injury if not tapped. This is HIGH-RISK due to vulnerable shoulder external rotation combined with elevation.
Setup Requirements Checklist:
- Starting position: Top control (Side Control Top S042, North-South, back control, or turtle top)
- Position control quality: Opponent flat on stomach/side with compromised base
- Required grips: Figure-four grip established (hand to own wrist) with opponent’s arm trapped
- Angle optimization: Arm positioned behind back with elbow bent 90+ degrees
- Opponent vulnerability: Defensive frames eliminated, arm isolated behind back
- Space elimination: Your weight prevents opponent from rolling or escaping
- Timing recognition: Opponent reaches back, turns to turtle, or gives back
Defense Awareness:
- Early defense (arm not yet behind back): 70% escape success - prevent arm from being trapped
- Mid-setup defense (arm behind back but grip not secured): 50% escape success - pull arm out aggressively
- Post-lock defense (figure-four locked but no pressure): 30% escape success - roll away urgently
- Inevitable submission (arm elevated toward head): 0% escape → TAP IMMEDIATELY
Safety Q&A Patterns: Q: “How fast should pressure be applied?” A: “SLOW and progressive - 4-5 seconds minimum. Shoulder external rotation under elevation is extremely vulnerable. In drilling, 7-10 seconds.”
Q: “What are the tap signals?” A: “Verbal ‘tap’ is PRIMARY (bottom arm trapped behind back, top arm may be difficult to move). Physical tap with free hand or feet. Any indication of shoulder distress.”
Q: “What if my partner doesn’t tap?” A: “STOP IMMEDIATELY if: shoulder makes any sound, partner’s body goes rigid, partner shows distress, unusual resistance felt. Reverse kimura attacks most vulnerable shoulder vector.”
Q: “What are the injury risks?” A: “Shoulder dislocation (common with this technique), rotator cuff tears (especially infraspinatus), labral damage, shoulder instability. External rotation + elevation = double danger.”
Decision Tree for Execution:
IF arm_trapped_behind_back AND figure_four_grip_secured:
→ Begin slow elevation toward head (Success Rate: [skill_level]%)
ELIF arm_elevated AND opponent_not_escaping:
→ Continue SLOW progressive pressure (4-5 seconds minimum)
→ WATCH FOR TAP CONTINUOUSLY
ELIF tap_signal_received OR shoulder_resistance_unusual:
→ RELEASE IMMEDIATELY - lower arm slowly per protocol
ELSE:
→ Maintain control position, reassess setup
⚠️ SAFETY NOTICE
This submission can cause SHOULDER DISLOCATION, ROTATOR CUFF TEARS, and LABRAL DAMAGE if applied improperly. The reverse kimura attacks the shoulder’s most vulnerable position: external rotation combined with elevation.
- Injury Risks:
- Shoulder dislocation (severe - immediate medical attention, weeks to months recovery, high re-dislocation risk)
- Rotator cuff tear, especially infraspinatus (moderate to severe - surgical repair often required, 3-6 months recovery)
- Labral tear (severe - surgical repair typically needed, 4-6 months recovery)
- Shoulder capsule damage (moderate to severe - weeks to months recovery)
- Shoulder impingement (moderate - chronic pain possible)
- Application Speed: SLOW and controlled - 4-5 seconds minimum in training, 7-10 seconds in drilling
- Tap Signals: VERBAL “tap” is PRIMARY (bottom arm trapped, top arm may be difficult to access). Physical tap with free hand/feet secondary.
- Release Protocol:
- Stop all upward pressure immediately
- Lower arm back toward natural position SLOWLY (don’t drop it)
- Release figure-four grip control
- Check shoulder safety: “Can you rotate arm? Lift overhead? Any pain?”
- Watch for limited range of motion, instability, or pain response
- Training Requirement: Intermediate level minimum with shoulder mechanics education
- Never: Apply explosive pressure, lift beyond partner’s natural range, practice on injured/unstable shoulders, finish on extremely flexible partners without extra care
Remember: The reverse kimura combines two vulnerable shoulder vectors: external rotation (weak) + elevation (stressful). Your training partner’s shoulder must last 40+ years. Apply with extreme care, respect tap immediately, check shoulder function after every repetition.
Overview
The Reverse Kimura is a highly effective shoulder lock applied when the opponent’s arm is trapped behind their back in what is commonly called a “chicken wing” or “hammerlock” position. Unlike the standard Kimura (which creates internal rotation), the reverse kimura creates external rotation combined with elevation - one of the shoulder’s most vulnerable mechanical positions.
The technique gained prominence in modern BJJ and submission grappling through practitioners who recognized that controlling an opponent’s arm behind their back creates both positional dominance and submission opportunities. It’s commonly set up from turtle position, side control, or when taking the back.
What makes the reverse kimura particularly dangerous is that it attacks the shoulder joint at its weakest vector: the combination of external rotation (arm rotated outward) and elevation (arm lifted toward head). The rotator cuff muscles, especially the infraspinatus and teres minor, are very vulnerable in this position. Additionally, the posterior shoulder capsule and labrum face maximum stress.
The reverse kimura is especially effective because opponents often give this position voluntarily when defending or attempting to escape - they post their hand behind their back, frame with their arm, or turn into turtle, all of which can expose the arm to this attack.
Critical Safety Note: The reverse kimura has a higher shoulder dislocation rate than standard kimura due to the external rotation component. Extra care is essential.
Submission Properties
From Side Control Top (S042) and related top positions:
Success Rates:
- Beginner: 25% (moderate-low - requires setup recognition and shoulder sensitivity)
- Intermediate: 45% (moderate - with consistent drilling and position control)
- Advanced: 70% (high - when opponent’s defensive patterns are recognized)
Technical Characteristics:
- Setup Complexity: Medium - requires arm isolation and figure-four grip establishment
- Execution Speed: Medium - shoulder requires gradual pressure (4-5+ seconds)
- Escape Difficulty: High - once locked, escape windows are limited
- Damage Potential: High - shoulder dislocation, rotator cuff tears, labral damage
- Target Area: Shoulder joint complex, specifically external rotators and posterior structures
Visual Finishing Sequence
With your opponent flat on their stomach and you in side control or crucifix position, you have secured their right arm trapped behind their back. Your right arm threads through and grabs your own left wrist, creating a figure-four configuration. Their arm is bent at approximately 90 degrees with their hand positioned in the middle of their back - the classic “chicken wing” shape.
You begin to slowly lift their arm upward, elevating it toward their head while maintaining the bent elbow position. The motion is smooth and progressive - their hand moves from their mid-back toward their shoulder blade and beyond. As you lift, their shoulder experiences external rotation stress combined with elevation. You feel their shoulder approaching its natural range limit.
Your opponent feels increasing pressure on the shoulder joint - not sharp pain yet, but unmistakable stress indicating the joint is approaching its limit. Recognizing the submission is locked and escaping would risk serious injury, they tap loudly on the mat with their free left hand or call out “tap tap tap.” You immediately stop the upward motion, slowly lower their arm back to a neutral position, release your figure-four grip, and check their shoulder. They rotate it carefully - full range of motion, no pain. Clean finish.
Body Positioning:
- Your position: Side control, knee-on-belly, north-south, or crucifix - maintaining top control with weight distributed to prevent escape, figure-four grip secured around opponent’s arm, body positioned to lift arm toward opponent’s head
- Opponent’s position: Flat on stomach or side, right arm trapped behind back with elbow bent, hand positioned on their own back, left arm free to tap, head turned away from trapped arm, base completely compromised
- Key pressure points: Shoulder joint (external rotation + elevation stress), posterior shoulder capsule, rotator cuff (especially infraspinatus and teres minor)
- Leverage creation: Figure-four grip provides control, upward lifting motion creates elevation stress, maintained elbow bend focuses pressure on shoulder rotation rather than elbow
Setup Requirements
Conditions that must be satisfied before attempting:
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Position Establishment: Top control position with opponent flat or nearly flat
- Side control, north-south, crucifix, or turtle top
- Opponent’s defensive structures compromised
- Your base stable enough to control position throughout
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Control Points:
- Opponent’s arm isolated and controlled behind their back
- Arm bent at elbow (approximately 90 degrees)
- Your weight distributed to prevent opponent from rolling
- Opponent’s other arm unable to create effective defense
- Your hips/legs positioned to maintain top control
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Angle Creation:
- Opponent’s arm positioned behind their back (not on mat for base)
- Clear path to lift arm upward toward their head
- Your body positioned to apply upward leverage
- Arm angle allows external rotation stress (not just elevation)
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Grip Acquisition:
- Figure-four grip established: your arm threads through, your hand grips your own wrist
- Control of opponent’s wrist or hand with your other hand
- Grips secure enough to lift arm without slipping
- Elbow maintained at approximately 90-degree bend
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Space Elimination:
- Weight prevents opponent from rolling toward trapped arm
- Hip pressure prevents bridging escape
- Opponent’s arm can’t be pulled back to floor
- Defensive frames eliminated or controlled
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Timing Recognition:
- Opponent posts hand behind back while defending
- Opponent turns to turtle with arm trailing
- Opponent frames with arm during escape attempt
- Opponent reaches back to defend
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Safety Verification:
- Partner’s shoulder is healthy (no instability, prior dislocations, or injuries)
- Partner understands reverse kimura mechanics and danger
- Partner knows verbal tap is primary signal (bottom arm trapped)
- Both practitioners aware of slow, progressive elevation requirement
- Partner’s flexibility level assessed (flexible partners need extra care)
Position Quality Required: Arm must be truly isolated behind back with opponent unable to pull it back to mat. If opponent maintains base with trapped arm or can easily extract it, position is not secure enough for pressure.
Execution Steps
SAFETY REMINDER: Apply pressure SLOWLY - 4-5 seconds minimum from lock to tap. Shoulder external rotation + elevation = double danger. Watch for tap signals continuously. Monitor shoulder angle carefully.
Step-by-Step Execution
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Arm Isolation (Setup Phase)
- From side control or crucifix, isolate opponent’s near arm
- Thread your arm under and through their bent arm
- Position their arm behind their back (elbow bent ~90 degrees)
- Control their wrist/hand with your free hand
- Safety check: Partner’s shoulder healthy, verbal tap agreed upon
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Figure-Four Grip (Control Phase)
- With arm threaded through, reach for your own opposite wrist
- Establish figure-four grip (right hand grips own left wrist)
- Ensure opponent’s arm is bent and positioned behind their back
- Your grip should be tight on your own wrist, not pulling opponent’s arm yet
- Partner check: “Arm position okay so far?”
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Position Adjustment (Alignment Phase)
- Adjust your base for stability (can’t apply pressure if you’re off-balance)
- Ensure opponent is flat or nearly flat (prevent rolling)
- Confirm arm is positioned with elbow bent behind their back
- Check your leverage path - clear upward motion toward their head
- Verify opponent’s free hand can tap clearly
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Progressive Elevation Initiation (Entry Phase)
- Begin SLOWLY lifting opponent’s arm upward toward their head
- Maintain elbow bend throughout - don’t straighten arm
- Movement should be smooth and continuous, not jerky
- Watch opponent’s body language for tension/resistance
- Speed: Very SLOW upward motion (2-3 seconds for first phase)
- Monitor: Partner’s tap signals, shoulder angle, distress signs
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Continued Elevation (Execution Phase)
- Continue lifting arm incrementally upward
- Hand moves from mid-back toward shoulder blade and beyond
- Maintain figure-four grip security throughout
- Feel shoulder approaching its natural range limit
- DO NOT force past resistance - let position do work
- Time: 2-3 seconds of continued progressive elevation
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Final Adjustment (Completion Phase)
- Micro-adjust angle if needed for optimal pressure
- Ensure elbow remains bent (straight arm changes submission)
- Slight adjustments in lifting vector can increase effectiveness
- Critical: WATCH FOR TAP - partner may have seconds before injury
- Stop immediately if resistance feels unusual (grinding, popping sensation)
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Submission Recognition & Release (Safety Phase)
- FEEL/HEAR TAP: Hand tapping mat, verbal “tap tap tap”, foot tap
- RELEASE IMMEDIATELY:
- STOP all upward lifting motion
- SLOWLY lower arm back to neutral position (don’t drop it)
- Release figure-four grip
- Allow opponent to bring arm to safe position
- Move weight off opponent to allow movement
- Post-submission: “Shoulder okay? Can you rotate arm? Lift it overhead? Any pain or instability?”
- Check: Range of motion (especially external rotation and overhead reach), pain response, stability, hesitation in movement
Total Execution Time in Training: Minimum 4-5 seconds from figure-four lock to tap. In drilling: 7-10 seconds.
Variation Notes: Some practitioners apply reverse kimura with opponent’s arm straightened rather than bent - this changes the submission vector to include elbow pressure as well as shoulder. This variation is HIGHER RISK (two joints) and requires even slower application.
Anatomical Targeting & Injury Awareness
Primary Target
- Anatomical Structure: Glenohumeral joint (shoulder), specifically targeting external rotators (infraspinatus, teres minor), posterior joint capsule, posterior glenoid labrum, posterior glenohumeral ligaments
- Pressure Direction: External rotation (arm rotated outward) + elevation (arm lifted toward head) = combined stress on posterior shoulder structures
- Physiological Response: Shoulder rotates externally while being elevated → posterior capsule stretches → rotator cuff strains (especially infraspinatus) → labrum stresses → pain signal → tap or injury
Secondary Effects
- Anterior Shoulder Stress: Some elevation creates anterior capsule stretch
- Scapular Positioning: Scapula must accommodate arm elevation - can stress surrounding muscles
- Elbow Stress: If arm is straightened, elbow hyperextension component added (double danger)
INJURY RISKS & PREVENTION
Potential Injuries:
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Shoulder Dislocation (Posterior or Inferior): Ball of shoulder separates from socket, typically posteriorly or inferiorly. Severity: SEVERE - immediate medical attention required, weeks immobilized, months recovery, 40-90% re-dislocation risk especially with external rotation mechanism. Prevention: SLOW application, stop at first major resistance, never explosive pressure.
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Infraspinatus Rotator Cuff Tear: Specific rotator cuff muscle most vulnerable in external rotation. Severity: MODERATE to SEVERE - weeks to months recovery, surgical repair often required, affects external rotation strength permanently. Prevention: gradual pressure only, respect shoulder range limits, immediate tap recognition.
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Labral Tear (Posterior): Cartilage ring around socket tears, typically posteriorly. Severity: SEVERE - surgical repair typically required, 4-6 months recovery, possible chronic instability, may end competitive career. Prevention: extremely slow application, feel for grinding/catching resistance, stop immediately.
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Posterior Shoulder Capsule Damage: Connective tissue envelope tears or overstretches. Severity: MODERATE to SEVERE - weeks to months recovery, potential chronic looseness/instability, affects shoulder stability long-term. Prevention: don’t exceed natural range, progressive pressure only.
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Shoulder Impingement: Rotator cuff tendons compress between bones during elevation. Severity: MODERATE - weeks recovery, potential chronic issue, painful overhead activities. Prevention: don’t lift arm beyond comfortable range, smooth motion without jerking.
Prevention Measures:
- Apply pressure EXTREMELY slowly (4-5 seconds minimum, 7-10+ in drilling)
- Never “spike” or “crank” the elevation - smoothness critical
- Assess partner’s flexibility first - flexible partners need EXTRA care (false sense of safety)
- Watch partner’s body language continuously - stiffening indicates approaching limits
- Stop at ANY sign of shoulder distress (unusual resistance, stiffness, sound, grinding)
- Verbal check-ins during drilling: “Shoulder okay?” “Range feeling okay?” “Too much?”
- Release immediately upon ANY tap signal, especially verbal
- After release, check shoulder function: external rotation, overhead reach, pain test
- Never apply reverse kimura to shoulders with instability or dislocation history
- Understand that flexible partners may not feel pain until after serious damage done
Special Warning for Flexible Partners:
- Hypermobile individuals can have shoulders that move through extreme range without pain
- This does NOT mean the position is safe - ligaments and capsule can stretch beyond recovery point
- Flexible partners often don’t tap until after damage is done
- Extra care required: slower application, more frequent verbal checks, stop at “feeling pressure” not “feeling pain”
Warning Signs to Stop IMMEDIATELY:
- Partner unable to tap with free hand (check positioning)
- Shoulder makes any popping, clicking, clunking, or grinding sound
- Partner’s body goes suddenly stiff or rigid
- Partner’s face shows extreme distress or panic
- Shoulder angle looks extreme or unusual
- Resistance feels different than smooth joint resistance (catching, grinding, sudden looseness)
- ANY uncertainty about shoulder safety
- Partner doesn’t respond to verbal check
- You feel something “give” or “release” in shoulder joint
- Flexible partner says “feeling something” even without pain
Post-Reverse Kimura Shoulder Check Protocol:
- “Can you rotate your arm outward?” (external rotation test - key indicator)
- “Can you lift arm overhead?” (elevation test)
- “Can you reach behind your back?” (internal rotation comparison)
- “Any pain? Where? Sharp, dull, or deep?”
- “Does shoulder feel stable or loose?”
- Watch for: Limited range compared to other arm, reluctance to move, pain on specific motions, feeling of instability
Opponent Defense Patterns
Common Escape Attempts
Defensive responses with success rates and safety windows:
Early Defense (Before arm trapped behind back)
- Reverse Kimura Defense - Arm Protection → Side Control Bottom Frames (Success Rate: 70%, Window: 2-3 seconds)
- Defender action: Keep arm tight to body, prevent arm from being threaded behind back, maintain defensive frames
- Attacker response: Work to break frames, threaten other attacks to force arm movement, be patient
- Safety note: Best time to defend - prevents dangerous position entirely
Mid-Setup Defense (Arm behind back but grip not secured)
- Reverse Kimura Escape - Pull Arm Out → Defensive Recovery (Success Rate: 50%, Window: 2-3 seconds)
- Defender action: Aggressively pull arm back under body toward front, use opposite arm to help, bridge if needed
- Attacker response: Secure figure-four grip quickly, increase weight to prevent movement
- Safety note: Last chance to extract arm - use power if necessary
Post-Lock Defense (Figure-four locked but no elevation yet)
- Reverse Kimura Escape - Roll Away → Scramble Position (Success Rate: 30%, Window: 1-2 seconds)
- Defender action: Explosive roll away from trapped arm (toward free arm side), accept inferior position to protect shoulder
- Attacker response: Anticipate roll and maintain figure-four, follow into crucifix or back control
- Safety critical: Window exists before elevation begins - must act immediately
Late-Stage Defense (Elevation beginning)
- Emergency Tap → Terminal State (Success Rate: 5%, Window: <1 second)
- Defender action: Immediate tap - verbal “tap tap tap” since bottom arm trapped
- Attacker response: Stop elevation immediately, lower arm slowly
- Safety critical: Attempting escape at this stage risks serious injury - tap is correct choice
Inevitable Submission (Arm elevated beyond safe range)
- Tap Out → Terminal State (Success Rate: 0% escape)
- Defender must: TAP IMMEDIATELY - verbal “tap tap tap” LOUDLY (bottom arm completely inaccessible)
- Attacker must: RELEASE IMMEDIATELY - stop lifting, lower arm slowly, check shoulder
- Safety principle: NO SHAME IN TAPPING - shoulder dislocations from reverse kimura are common
Defensive Decision Logic
If [arm approaching behind back] AND [still have frames]:
- Execute [[Arm Protection]] (Success Rate: 70%)
- Window: 2-3 seconds to prevent setup
- Action: Keep arm tight to body, maintain frames, prevent threading
Else if [arm behind back] but [grip not yet secured]:
- Execute [[Pull Arm Out Aggressively]] (Success Rate: 50%)
- Window: 2-3 seconds before figure-four locks
- Action: Power pull arm back under body, use opposite arm to assist
- HIGH URGENCY: Last chance to extract arm
Else if [figure-four locked] but [no elevation yet]:
- Execute [[Roll Away]] (Success Rate: 30%)
- Window: 1-2 seconds before elevation begins
- Action: Explosive roll toward free arm side, accept inferior position
- CRITICAL: Must act immediately before elevation starts
Else if [elevation beginning] OR [shoulder approaching limit]:
- Execute [[Tap Out]] (Immediate)
- Window: <1 second before injury
- CRITICAL: Verbal "tap tap tap" LOUDLY (bottom arm completely trapped)
- NO SHAME: Protect shoulder for entire training career
- REALITY: Re-dislocation risk is 40-90% - one tap protects from chronic instability
Resistance Patterns & Safety Considerations
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Strength-Based Resistance: Using power to resist elevation or external rotation
- EXTREMELY DANGEROUS: Rotator cuff tears easily under resistance
- Safety concern: Massively increases injury risk - fighting creates explosive force
- Better option: Technical escape early or immediate tap
- Reality: Can’t muscle out of proper reverse kimura - shoulder will dislocate or rotator cuff will tear
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Rolling Toward Trapped Arm: Trying to roll into the submission
- DANGEROUS: Increases elevation and rotation stress
- Safety concern: Can accelerate dislocation
- Better option: Roll AWAY from trapped arm if possible
- Only viable if attempted before elevation begins
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Flexible Partner Danger: Hypermobile individuals may not feel pain until damage done
- Not strength resistance but equally dangerous
- Shoulder can move through extreme range without pain signal
- Ligaments and capsule can stretch beyond recovery point
- Must tap to “pressure” or “position” not “pain”
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Waiting for Tap: Attacker perspective - never test partner’s pain tolerance
- Stop at reasonable elevation angle even without tap
- Flexible partners especially need protection from themselves
- Use “you good?” verbal checks during application
- If partner says “yeah I’m good” but angle looks extreme, stop anyway
Training Progressions & Safety Protocols
Safe learning pathway emphasizing control before completion:
Phase 1: Technical Understanding (Week 1-2)
- Study reverse kimura mechanics and shoulder anatomy
- Understand difference from standard kimura (internal vs external rotation)
- Learn why external rotation + elevation = double danger
- Study common injuries and their mechanisms
- Practice arm threading and figure-four grip without partner
- Learn all tap signals, especially verbal (since bottom arm trapped)
- No partner application
- Quiz yourself: What is external rotation? Where is infraspinatus? What makes this different from regular kimura?
Phase 2: Static Position Drilling (Week 3-6)
- Partner provides compliant, trapped arm
- Partner provides ZERO resistance
- Focus: Arm threading, figure-four grip, body positioning
- Speed: EXTRA SLOW (10+ seconds per rep from lock to light pressure)
- Partner gives “tap” at 10-20% pressure (slight elevation, no discomfort)
- Practice release protocol every single repetition
- Lower arm SLOWLY back to neutral - don’t drop it
- Verbal communication: “Shoulder okay?” “Feel any pressure?” “Comfortable?”
- Instructor supervision required for first 20+ repetitions
- Goal: Build muscle memory for position, NOT finishing
Phase 3: Flexibility Assessment (Week 7-8)
- Critical phase: Learn to assess partner’s shoulder flexibility
- Drill with multiple partners of varying flexibility
- Notice how flexible partners can go much further without discomfort
- Practice stopping at conservative angle regardless of partner’s flexibility
- Establish rule: stop at reasonable angle, not at pain
- Partner gives “tap” at 20-30% pressure
- Goal: Develop sensitivity to range differences between partners
Phase 4: Escape Drilling (Week 9-12)
- Switch roles: Now practice being caught in reverse kimura
- Learn arm protection from side control
- Learn aggressive arm extraction when behind back
- Learn roll-away escape timing
- Practice recognizing point of no return
- Build instinct for when to tap vs when to escape
- Partner applies SLOW progressive pressure (30-40%)
- Goal: Develop tap awareness and escape timing
Phase 5: Progressive Resistance (Week 13-18)
- Partner provides mild resistance to setup
- Partner attempts basic escapes (arm pull, roll away)
- Practice reading defensive cues
- Speed: SLOW progression (7-10 seconds from lock to tap)
- Partner taps at 40-50% pressure
- Develop sensitivity to shoulder joint feedback
- Emphasize control over completion
- Practice: Catch position but don’t finish - hold and reset
- Goal: Safe application against light resistance
Phase 6: Safety Integration (Week 19-28)
- Light rolling integration (50-70% intensity)
- Proper tap recognition ingrained as reflex
- Speed: Still controlled - 4-5 seconds minimum
- Partner taps at 50-60% pressure
- Never finish on new/unknown partners without flexibility assessment
- Respect partner safety absolutely
- Develop reputation as safe training partner with shoulder locks
- Practice: Catch and threaten, don’t always finish
- Goal: Safe application is automatic, not conscious choice
Phase 7: Live Application (Ongoing - 7+ months experience minimum)
- Sparring integration with safety emphasis
- Read situations for reverse kimura opportunities (turtle, back defense, side control frames)
- Apply at appropriate speed for context
- Never sacrifice partner safety for “tap”
- Continue refining position control and sensitivity
- Extra careful with flexible partners (they’re everywhere)
- Mentor newer students on shoulder safety
- Practice: Position recognition and control > finishing
- Goal: Known for safe, effective reverse kimura application
CRITICAL: Progress through phases only when previous phase is mastered. Reverse kimura has HIGH dislocation risk. Many black belts use this as positional control rather than always finishing - smart training. Flexible partners require LIFETIME extra care, not just in early phases.
Injury Prevention Emphasis:
- Reverse kimura accounts for significant percentage of shoulder dislocations in BJJ
- External rotation injuries have high re-injury rates (40-90%)
- Flexible partners are at greatest risk (less pain feedback before damage)
- Prevention through careful application >> treatment after injury
Expert Insights
John Danaher Perspective
“The reverse kimura is mechanically fascinating because it attacks the shoulder through external rotation combined with elevation - the inverse of the standard kimura’s internal rotation. The shoulder joint’s posterior structures - the infraspinatus, teres minor, and posterior labrum - are significantly weaker than the anterior structures. When you combine external rotation with elevation, you create a vector that the rotator cuff cannot effectively resist. The key technical detail is maintaining the elbow bend throughout the application. If the arm straightens, you shift to an armbar-type submission. If you maintain the bent elbow and lift progressively, the shoulder experiences pure rotational stress. In training, your goal is to achieve the figure-four control and positional dominance. The threat of the reverse kimura often creates other opportunities - back takes, crucifix control, or positional submissions. Release immediately upon tap and assess shoulder function. The external rotation mechanism makes this submission particularly prone to causing dislocation - appropriate caution is mandatory.”
Key Technical Detail: Maintaining elbow bend throughout elevation focuses stress on shoulder rotation rather than elbow hyperextension
Safety Emphasis: External rotation mechanism has higher dislocation rate than internal rotation - demands extra caution and slower application
Gordon Ryan Perspective
“I use the reverse kimura constantly, but mostly as positional control leading to back takes or other attacks. The submission finish is dangerous - I’ve seen too many dislocations from this technique, especially when people apply it fast. In competition, if I do finish with reverse kimura, I’m extremely careful about the angle and speed. The problem is you can’t see your opponent’s shoulder - their back is to you - so you can’t visually gauge when to stop. You have to feel it. That means slower application, more sensitivity, better awareness. And here’s the critical part: flexible opponents are the most dangerous to finish with this. They’ll let you go way too far because they don’t feel pain until after the damage is done. With flexible training partners, I literally don’t finish the reverse kimura - I catch it, control them, and transition. Not worth the injury risk. In training, treat it like a position, not a submission. The control is the value.”
Competition Application: Effective position and control, but submission finish requires exceptional care due to lack of visual feedback
Training Modification: With flexible partners, use for control and transitions only - don’t finish due to injury risk
Eddie Bravo Perspective
“The reverse kimura shows up constantly in 10th Planet because we attack the back and turtle so much. When someone defends by posting their hand behind them, boom - there’s your reverse kimura opportunity. But we have strict rules about finishing it. Rule one: verbal check-ins during application - ‘you good?’ every second. Rule two: flexible people get extra care - we know they can’t feel it until it’s too late. Rule three: if someone taps to reverse kimura, we check their shoulder immediately - external rotation test, overhead reach, stability check. We’ve had students need surgery from reverse kimura when training partners went too fast. Now we’re paranoid about it - in a good way. Catch the position, control them, take the back or sweep. Finish it rarely, finish it slowly, and never on someone who’s super flexible. Your training partner’s shoulder has to last them 40 years. Act like you care about that - because you should.”
Innovation Focus: Reverse kimura as entry point for back takes, crucifix control, and sweeps from turtle/side control
Safety Non-Negotiable: Verbal check-ins during application, mandatory shoulder assessment after tap, extra caution with flexible partners
Common Errors
Technical Errors
Error 1: Straightening the Arm During Elevation
- Mistake: Allowing opponent’s elbow to straighten as you lift arm
- Why it fails: Changes submission from pure shoulder lock to combination armbar/shoulder lock, reduces effectiveness of both
- Correction: Maintain approximately 90-degree elbow bend throughout, focus lifting vector on shoulder rotation not arm straightening
- Safety impact: Combining two joint attacks (shoulder + elbow) increases injury risk, harder to control pressure
Error 2: Lifting Straight Up Instead of Toward Head
- Mistake: Lifting arm directly upward (perpendicular to back) instead of toward their head
- Why it fails: Reduces external rotation component, allows easier escape, less effective pressure
- Correction: Lift arm up AND toward opponent’s head, creating diagonal vector that combines elevation with rotation
- Safety impact: Wrong vector can stress incorrect shoulder structures, less effective but still dangerous
Error 3: Insufficient Figure-Four Tightness
- Mistake: Loose grip on own wrist, allowing slippage during elevation
- Why it fails: Control breaks, submission lost, may need to re-grip aggressively (dangerous)
- Correction: Tight grip on own wrist with strong squeeze, forearm pressure maintaining opponent’s elbow bend
- Safety impact: Losing control tempts re-gripping with force, potential for sudden pressure spike
Error 4: Poor Base During Application
- Mistake: Off-balance position allowing opponent to roll or escape during elevation
- Why it fails: Can’t maintain controlled pressure, may apply sudden force to regain control
- Correction: Solid base established before beginning elevation, weight distributed to prevent rolling
- Safety impact: Loss of balance leads to jerky, uncontrolled pressure application
Error 5: Not Assessing Partner Flexibility First
- Mistake: Applying same elevation angle to all partners regardless of flexibility
- Why it fails: Flexible partners can go much further before feeling discomfort - false sense of safety
- Correction: Assess flexibility first, establish conservative stopping point for flexible partners
- Safety impact: Flexible partners often suffer injury without adequate pain warning
SAFETY ERRORS (CRITICAL)
DANGER: Explosive Elevation
- Mistake: Lifting arm rapidly or with sudden jerking motion
- Why dangerous: No time for partner to recognize shoulder at limit and tap - rotator cuff tears or dislocation before tap possible
- Injury risk: SHOULDER DISLOCATION, infraspinatus rotator cuff tear, posterior labral tear, capsule damage
- Correction: Lift arm SLOWLY over 4-5 seconds minimum - smooth continuous motion, no jerking
- External rotation + elevation = double danger - explosive application is never acceptable
DANGER: Finishing on Flexible Partners Without Extra Care
- Mistake: Applying standard elevation angle to hypermobile/flexible partners
- Why dangerous: Flexible partners have reduced pain feedback - damage occurs before pain signal reaches consciousness
- Injury risk: Capsule overstretching (permanent looseness), ligament damage, subluxation without pain awareness
- Correction: Extra caution with flexible partners - slower application, more verbal check-ins, stop at conservative angle even without tap
- “Can you touch your toes?” “Can you do splits?” = WARNING SIGNS for extra shoulder care
DANGER: Dropping Arm After Release
- Mistake: Releasing grip and letting arm fall after tap instead of lowering it slowly
- Why dangerous: Sudden drop can cause additional shoulder stress, especially if shoulder already at limit
- Injury risk: Secondary injury during release, rotator cuff strain, impingement
- Correction: After tap, SLOWLY lower arm back to neutral position - control the descent
- Release protocol is part of the technique, not an afterthought
DANGER: Training on Previously Dislocated Shoulders
- Mistake: Applying reverse kimura to partner with history of shoulder dislocation
- Why dangerous: Once dislocated, shoulder has 40-90% re-dislocation risk, especially with external rotation mechanism
- Injury risk: Re-dislocation (very high probability), chronic instability, requiring surgical stabilization
- Correction: ALWAYS ask before drilling: “Shoulder ever dislocated? Any instability?” - choose different technique if yes
- Re-dislocation rates are among highest of any joint injury - respect prior injuries
DANGER: Ignoring Grinding/Catching Sensations
- Mistake: Feeling unusual resistance (grinding, catching, clunking) and continuing pressure
- Why dangerous: These sensations indicate labrum catching, capsule adhesions, or impingement - continued pressure causes damage
- Injury risk: Labral tears, capsule damage, rotator cuff impingement damage
- Correction: STOP IMMEDIATELY at any unusual sensation - smooth resistance is normal, grinding/catching is not
- Trust your tactile feedback - unusual feel = stop immediately
DANGER: Competition Speed in Training
- Mistake: Finishing reverse kimura at competition speed (2-3 seconds) during training
- Why dangerous: Shoulder doesn’t have time to signal distress, partner can’t assess if escape possible or tap needed
- Injury risk: Dislocations, rotator cuff tears, chronic shoulder damage from accumulated micro-trauma
- Correction: ALWAYS finish slower in training (4-5+ seconds minimum) - competition speed only in actual competition
- Training partners are cooperating to let you learn - honor that cooperation with slow, controlled application
DANGER: Not Establishing Verbal Tap Agreement
- Mistake: Drilling reverse kimura without confirming verbal tap protocol
- Why dangerous: Bottom arm completely trapped, top arm may be difficult to access for tapping - verbal may be only signal
- Injury risk: Partner unable to tap physically, continues to injury because attacker doesn’t hear verbal tap
- Correction: ALWAYS agree on verbal tap before drilling reverse kimura - practice saying “tap tap tap” loudly
- Verbal tap is PRIMARY signal for reverse kimura, not secondary
Setup Errors
Error 6: Attempting Without Arm Behind Back
- Mistake: Trying to apply reverse kimura with arm still in front or to side
- Why it fails: Not a reverse kimura, different submission, wrong mechanics
- Correction: Arm must be behind opponent’s back in chicken wing position first
- Safety impact: Forcing wrong position creates uncontrolled stress vectors
Error 7: Rushing Figure-Four Grip
- Mistake: Beginning elevation before figure-four grip fully secured
- Why it fails: Control breaks during pressure, may need aggressive re-grip
- Correction: Fully establish grip, test it, then begin elevation
- Safety impact: Partial grip can slip, causing sudden pressure changes
Variations & Setups
Primary Setup (Most Common)
From Side Control Top:
- Opponent frames with near arm, hand behind their back
- Thread your arm under and through their bent arm
- Establish figure-four grip (hand to own wrist)
- Begin slow elevation toward their head
- Success rate: Beginner 25%, Intermediate 45%, Advanced 70%
- Setup time: 2-3 seconds for setup + 4-5 seconds for finish
- Safety considerations: Ensure shoulder health verified, verbal tap agreed upon
Alternative Setup 1: From Turtle Top
From opponent in turtle position:
- Opponent’s arm trailing behind body
- Capture trailing arm and thread through
- Establish figure-four control
- Drive opponent to their side or stomach
- Complete elevation finish
- Best for: Opponent turning to turtle during scrambles
- Safety notes: Good control throughout, but confirm arm positioning before pressure
Alternative Setup 2: From Back Control
From back control (hooks in):
- Opponent defends by posting hand behind to prevent your arm around neck
- Capture posted arm with both hands
- Establish figure-four grip with arm behind their back
- Can finish from back or drive them forward to stomach
- Best for: Back defense creates opening
- Safety notes: Ensure they can tap with other arm or feet
Alternative Setup 3: From Crucifix Position
From crucifix (both arms trapped):
- One arm trapped behind back naturally in crucifix configuration
- Establish figure-four grip on trapped arm
- Apply reverse kimura while maintaining crucifix control
- Best for: Complete control, multiple submission options
- Safety notes: CRITICAL - both arms trapped, verbal tap PRIMARY signal
Alternative Setup 4: From North-South
From North-South position:
- Opponent frames with arm to create space
- Swim your arm under their arm
- Thread through and establish figure-four
- Lift toward their head from north-south position
- Best for: Heavy top pressure prevents escape
- Safety notes: Good weight distribution prevents rolling
No-Gi vs Gi Modifications
Gi Version:
- Grips: Can grip own sleeve for figure-four (easier to maintain)
- Advantages: Better grip security, more friction prevents slipping
- Adjustments: Can use gi pants/belt for additional control
- Safety: Gi grips very secure - must be especially careful not to over-elevate
No-Gi Version:
- Grips: Gable grip or S-grip on own wrist (no sleeve to grab)
- Modifications: Must establish tighter figure-four, rely more on arm positioning
- Advantages: No false security from gi grips - forces good technique
- Safety: Slipperiness means grip can break - don’t force if control loosens, reset position
Mechanical Principles
Leverage Systems
- Fulcrum: Opponent’s shoulder joint (glenohumeral joint)
- Effort Arm: Your figure-four grip + upward lifting motion = force application
- Resistance Arm: Opponent’s rotator cuff (especially infraspinatus and teres minor) + posterior capsule (very weak in this direction)
- Mechanical Advantage: Your body/arms (~100+ lbs lifting force) against rotator cuff external rotation strength (~20-40 lbs) = significant advantage
- Efficiency: Figure-four grip provides control, elevation provides leverage - minimal effort needed for maximum pressure
Shoulder Anatomy Under Stress
- External Rotation Weakness: Rotator cuff external rotators (infraspinatus, teres minor) are smaller and weaker than internal rotators
- Elevation Stress: Shoulder elevation compresses subacromial space (impingement risk) and stresses overhead structures
- Combined Vector: External rotation + elevation = double stress that rotator cuff cannot effectively resist
- Posterior Vulnerability: Posterior capsule and posterior labrum are weaker than anterior structures
- Dislocation Mechanism: External rotation is primary mechanism for posterior and inferior shoulder dislocations
Pressure Distribution
- Primary Pressure Point: Glenohumeral joint (shoulder ball-and-socket)
- Force Vector: External rotation + elevation = combined rotational and compressive stress
- Pressure Type: Rotation beyond normal range + elevation creating impingement
- Progressive Loading: 0% (figure-four locked) → 30% (elevation begins) → 70% (approaching range limit) → 100% (injury occurs)
- Threshold: Highly variable by individual - some tap at 50%, others at 85% - never test maximum
Structural Weakness
- Why It Works: Shoulder designed for mobility in all directions, but external rotation under elevation is weakest vector
- Body’s Response: Mechanoreceptors in posterior capsule and rotator cuff signal stretch → pain → tap response
- Damage Mechanism: Continued elevation → capsule tears → rotator cuff fibers tear (especially infraspinatus) → labrum damages → potential dislocation
- Protection Limits: Rotator cuff cannot be strengthened enough to resist this mechanical advantage - only option is tap or escape
Timing Elements
- Setup Window: 2-4 seconds to isolate arm and establish figure-four grip
- Position Lock: 1-2 seconds to secure grip and positioning
- Application Phase: 4-5 seconds minimum from elevation initiation to tap in training (2-3 seconds in competition for advanced)
- Escape Windows:
- Pre-trap: 2-3 seconds (70% escape rate)
- Arm behind back, no grip: 2-3 seconds (50% escape rate)
- Figure-four locked, no elevation: 1-2 seconds (30% escape rate)
- Elevation beginning: <1 second (near 0% escape rate)
- Point of No Return: When elevation exceeds comfortable range - no safe escape exists, tap required
- Tap Recognition: Attacker must respond to verbal tap within 0.5-1 second to prevent injury
Progressive Loading (Safety Critical)
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Figure-Four Lock (0% pressure):
- Grip secured, arm positioned behind back, no elevation yet
- Partner feels control but no shoulder stress
- Time: 1-2 seconds in locked position
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Early Elevation (10-30% pressure):
- Begin lifting arm slowly toward head
- Partner feels shoulder beginning external rotation + elevation
- Comfortable level, no real concern yet
- Easy escape still possible
- Time: 1-2 seconds
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Middle Elevation (30-60% pressure):
- Continued upward motion, hand moving up back toward shoulder blade
- Partner feels significant pressure on posterior shoulder
- Shoulder approaching normal range limit
- Escape becoming very difficult, decision point approaching
- Time: 1-2 seconds
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Warning Phase (60-80% pressure):
- Arm elevated significantly, hand approaching or past shoulder blade
- Partner’s shoulder at or near comfortable limit
- Strong tap signal should occur here
- Escape nearly impossible, tap is correct decision
- Time: 1-2 seconds
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Danger Zone (80-100% pressure):
- Maximum elevation, shoulder beyond safe range
- Tissue damage beginning - capsule stretching, rotator cuff straining
- MUST TAP or injury occurs
- No escape possible
- Time: <1 second
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Training Protocol:
- In drilling: Stop at 20-30% pressure, partner taps to position
- In light rolling: Stop at 40-50% pressure, partner taps
- In moderate rolling: Stop at 60-70% pressure, partner taps
- Competition: Continue to 80-85%, partner taps or injury (still controlled)
CRITICAL FLEXIBLE PARTNER ADJUSTMENT:
- Flexible partners can reach 80-90% pressure with minimal discomfort
- This does NOT mean safe - capsule and ligaments stretching beyond recovery
- With flexible partners: stop at 40-50% pressure regardless of their feedback
- “You good?” answered with “yeah” from flexible partner = NOT RELIABLE
- Use visual angle assessment, not partner’s pain feedback
Knowledge Assessment
Test understanding before live application. Minimum 5/6 correct required.
Question 1: Setup Recognition (Safety Critical)
Q: What position and controls must be established before attempting this submission safely, and why is flexibility assessment critical?
A: Starting position must be top control (Side Control Top S042, North-South, back control, or turtle top) with opponent flat or nearly flat. Required controls: (1) Opponent’s arm isolated and positioned behind their back (elbow bent approximately 90 degrees), (2) Figure-four grip established (your arm threaded through, hand grips your own wrist), (3) Opponent unable to roll or escape (your weight distributed properly), (4) Clear path to lift arm toward opponent’s head, (5) Opponent’s free hand able to tap clearly, (6) Your base stable enough to maintain throughout.
Flexibility Assessment CRITICAL: Because hypermobile/flexible individuals can move through extreme range of motion without pain signal until after serious damage is done. Flexible shoulders can dislocate or have capsule/ligament damage without adequate warning. Must assess flexibility first and apply extra caution: slower application, more verbal check-ins, stop at conservative angle regardless of partner’s comfort feedback. Ask: “Can you touch toes? Do splits? Very flexible?” = WARNING SIGNS for extra care.
Why It Matters: Reverse kimura has HIGH dislocation rate due to external rotation + elevation mechanism. Flexible partners are at greatest risk because injury can occur before pain. Assessment prevents career-ending injuries.
Question 2: Technical Execution (Mechanics)
Q: What creates the pressure in this technique, and why must the elbow remain bent?
A: Pressure is created by: (1) Figure-four grip providing control and leverage, (2) Upward and forward lifting motion elevating opponent’s arm toward their head, (3) Maintained elbow bend focusing pressure on shoulder rotation rather than arm straightening, (4) External rotation component (arm rotating outward) combined with elevation. Combined effect: shoulder experiences external rotation stress + elevation stress = double vulnerable vector.
Why Elbow Must Stay Bent:
- Bent elbow (90 degrees): Pure shoulder lock, pressure focused on glenohumeral joint and rotator cuff
- Straightened elbow: Combination armbar/shoulder lock, splits pressure between two joints
- Maintaining bend: More effective shoulder attack, clearer submission, easier to control
- If arm straightens: Difficult to isolate pressure, both joints at risk, harder to gauge safety
Mechanical Advantage: External rotators (infraspinatus, teres minor) can resist ~20-40 lbs in this direction. Your lifting force: ~100+ lbs. This is why submission is effective but also why it’s so dangerous - overwhelming mechanical advantage against vulnerable structures.
Why It Matters: Understanding the specific mechanics allows controlled, focused application. Knowing why elbow bend matters prevents shifting to less controlled combination submission.
Question 3: Safety Understanding (CRITICAL)
Q: Why does the reverse kimura have a higher dislocation rate than standard kimura, and what is the proper protocol for verbal tap signals?
A:
Higher Dislocation Rate Reasons:
- External Rotation Mechanism: Posterior and inferior shoulder dislocations occur primarily through external rotation - reverse kimura uses this exact mechanism
- Reduced Warning: External rotation + elevation can create dislocation with less pain warning than internal rotation (standard kimura)
- Posterior Structure Weakness: Posterior capsule and posterior labrum are weaker than anterior structures
- Visual Feedback Absence: Can’t see opponent’s shoulder (back facing you) - must rely on feel alone
- Flexible Partner Vulnerability: Hypermobile individuals can go into dangerous range without adequate pain signal
- Combined Stress: Elevation + rotation = double stress vector, each alone is safer than combined
Application Speed Required: 4-5 seconds MINIMUM from figure-four lock to tap in training (7-10 seconds in drilling). Slower than standard kimura (3-4 seconds) due to higher injury risk.
Verbal Tap Protocol:
- PRIMARY signal: Verbal “tap tap tap” must be AGREED UPON before every drilling session
- Why primary: Bottom arm completely trapped behind back, top arm often difficult to move for tapping (body position)
- How to practice: Before drilling, both partners practice saying “TAP TAP TAP” loudly - builds reflex
- Attacker obligation: Listen continuously for verbal tap, treat with same urgency as physical tap
- Training culture: Practice verbal tapping even when could tap physically - builds habit for when physical tap impossible
Release After Verbal Tap:
- Stop all upward motion immediately
- Lower arm SLOWLY back to neutral position (don’t drop it)
- Release figure-four grip
- Check shoulder: “Okay? Can you rotate? Any pain?”
Why It Matters: Understanding higher dislocation rate creates appropriate respect. Verbal tap protocol prevents injuries when physical tap impossible. Many shoulder surgeries from this technique stem from inadequate tap communication or delayed recognition.
Question 4: Defense Awareness (Tactical)
Q: What are the three main defensive windows, and why are flexible individuals at special risk as defenders?
A:
Defensive Windows:
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Pre-Trap Window (Best defense - 70% success)
- Timing: Before arm threaded behind back (first 2-3 seconds)
- Defense: Keep arm tight to body, maintain defensive frames, prevent arm from going behind back
- Success rate: 70%
- Why effective: Prevents dangerous position entirely
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Arm Behind Back, No Grip (Urgent defense - 50% success)
- Timing: Arm behind back but figure-four not secured (next 2-3 seconds)
- Defense: Aggressively pull arm back under body toward front, use opposite arm to assist, bridge if needed
- Success rate: 50%
- Why effective: Last chance to extract arm before lock
- Note: Use power/urgency - this is last extraction opportunity
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Figure-Four Locked, No Elevation (Last chance - 30% success)
- Timing: Grip secured but elevation not started (1-2 seconds)
- Defense: Explosive roll AWAY from trapped arm (toward free arm side), accept inferior position
- Success rate: 30%
- Why effective: Last technical escape before elevation begins
- Note: Must sacrifice position to protect shoulder
Point of No Return: When elevation begins and arm starts moving up back - no safe escape exists, TAP IMMEDIATELY.
Flexible Individuals at Special Risk:
Why Flexible Defenders Are Vulnerable:
- Hypermobile joints can move through extreme range without pain signal
- Normal person taps at 70-80% of danger range when feels discomfort
- Flexible person may not feel discomfort until 90-95% of danger range
- By the time flexible person feels pain, capsule/ligaments already stretching beyond recovery point
- Flexible = reduced proprioceptive feedback (less awareness of joint position)
What Happens:
- Flexible defender thinks “I’m fine, I can handle more”
- Attacker sees extreme range, assumes if partner’s not tapping they’re okay
- Reality: Ligaments stretching, capsule damaging, no pain signal yet
- Injury occurs before pain reaches consciousness
- Common result: Dislocation or severe capsule damage without adequate warning
Correct Approach for Flexible Defenders:
- Tap to POSITION, not to PAIN
- If arm behind back and elevated significantly, tap regardless of comfort
- Understand your flexibility is a vulnerability here, not an advantage
- Tell training partners “I’m flexible, stop early even if I say I’m okay”
- Don’t test your range - protect your ligaments
Correct Approach for Attackers with Flexible Partners:
- Ask about flexibility before drilling
- Stop at conservative angle (40-50% pressure) regardless of their feedback
- More frequent verbal check-ins: “You good?” every second
- Visual angle assessment more important than partner feedback
- Don’t trust “yeah I’m fine” from flexible partner - use own judgment
Why It Matters: Flexible individuals account for disproportionate number of shoulder injuries from reverse kimura. Understanding this special vulnerability prevents career-ending injuries. Both partners must adjust approach when flexibility is high.
Question 5: Anatomical Knowledge (Technical)
Q: What specific anatomical structures are at risk, and why is the external rotation + elevation combination particularly dangerous?
A:
Anatomical Structures at Risk:
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Infraspinatus (primary rotator cuff muscle):
- Function: External rotation of shoulder
- At risk: Tear under resistance to external rotation stress
- Why vulnerable: Small muscle (~30-40 lbs strength) vs high leverage attack
-
Teres Minor (secondary rotator cuff muscle):
- Function: Assists external rotation and stabilization
- At risk: Tear, especially at musculotendinous junction
- Why vulnerable: Works with infraspinatus, equally exposed
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Posterior Glenoid Labrum (cartilage ring):
- Function: Deepens socket, provides stability
- At risk: Tear, especially posterior-superior quadrant
- Why vulnerable: External rotation stresses posterior aspect maximally
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Posterior Joint Capsule (connective tissue):
- Function: Encases joint, limits extreme motion
- At risk: Overstretching, tearing
- Why vulnerable: Thinner posteriorly than anteriorly
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Posterior-Inferior Glenohumeral Ligament:
- Function: Prevents posterior dislocation
- At risk: Overstretching, rupture
- Why vulnerable: Primary restraint to posterior dislocation
Why External Rotation + Elevation Is Particularly Dangerous:
External Rotation Alone:
- Rotator cuff can resist moderate external rotation force
- Strongest at 0 degrees elevation (arm at side)
- ~40-50 lbs resistance possible
Elevation Alone:
- Shoulder can elevate overhead safely
- Range: ~180 degrees
- Subacromial space narrows (impingement risk)
External Rotation + Elevation COMBINED:
- Rotator cuff strength DECREASES dramatically when arm elevated (drops to ~20-30 lbs)
- Posterior capsule maximally stretched
- Subacromial space narrowed (impingement)
- Labrum stressed at weakest point (posterior-superior)
- Dislocation vector optimal (posterior-inferior)
- Combined forces exceed tissue strength by wide margin
Dislocation Mechanism:
- External rotation rotates humeral head posteriorly
- Elevation translates humeral head inferiorly
- Combined: posterior-inferior translation
- This is exact mechanism of posterior and inferior shoulder dislocations
- Explains high dislocation rate (40-50% of reverse kimura injuries)
Injury Progression if Held After Tap:
- 60-70% pressure: Capsule tightening, rotator cuff maximum load → tap should occur
- 70-80% pressure: Capsule overstretching, rotator cuff micro-tears beginning → definite tap
- 80-90% pressure: Visible capsule/rotator cuff damage, labrum stressing → injury imminent
- 90-100% pressure: Dislocation or major rotator cuff tear → INJURY OCCURS
Recovery Times:
- Mild strain: 2-4 weeks
- Partial rotator cuff tear: 6-12 weeks, possible surgery
- Labral tear: 4-6 months with surgical repair
- Dislocation: 3-6 months, 40-90% re-dislocation risk, possible surgical stabilization
- Complete rotator cuff rupture: 6-12 months with surgery, often permanent limitation
Why It Matters: Understanding the specific combination of stresses explains why reverse kimura is so effective and so dangerous. The external rotation + elevation creates a perfect storm of anatomical vulnerability. This knowledge creates appropriate respect for the submission and careful, slow application.
Question 6: Release Protocol (Safety Critical)
Q: What is the immediate action required when partner taps, how do you release safely, and what post-submission shoulder assessment is mandatory?
A:
Immediate Action: STOP ALL UPWARD MOTION IMMEDIATELY upon hearing “tap” or feeling tap signal. Verbal tap requires identical urgency as physical tap.
Release Steps (CRITICAL - Must be slow and controlled):
- Cease Elevation: Stop all upward lifting motion (immediate)
- Lower Arm SLOWLY: Control descent of arm back toward neutral position (1-2 seconds) - DO NOT DROP IT
- Release Figure-Four Grip: Let go of own wrist, release control (0.5 seconds)
- Remove Weight: Shift weight off opponent to allow movement (1 second)
- Create Space: Back away to give partner room (1 second)
- Allow Self-Recovery: Let partner bring arm to comfortable position themselves (1-2 seconds)
Total Release Time: 4-6 seconds from tap to full separation - notably SLOWER than other submissions due to controlled arm lowering.
Post-Submission Shoulder Assessment (MANDATORY - Most important for any shoulder lock):
Verbal Assessment:
- “Shoulder okay? Any pain or discomfort?”
- “Pain sharp, dull, or deep?”
- “Where exactly? Front, back, or inside joint?”
Range of Motion Tests (CRITICAL for reverse kimura):
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External Rotation Test (KEY INDICATOR):
- “Can you rotate your arm outward?” (the primary attack vector)
- Partner rotates arm externally - watch for pain, limitation, or hesitation
- Compare to other arm if uncertain
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Overhead Reach Test:
- “Can you reach overhead?” (elevation component test)
- Partner lifts arm overhead - watch for arc of motion, pain at specific angle
-
Internal Rotation Test (Comparison):
- “Can you reach behind your back?” (opposite motion)
- Should be less affected, but test for comparison
-
Circumduction Test:
- “Can you make circles with your arm?”
- Watch for smooth motion vs catching/grinding/pain at specific points
Visual Inspection:
- Look for: Asymmetry compared to other shoulder, reluctance to move fully, wincing
- Check for: Visible deformity (suggests dislocation), swelling (immediate or within 5 minutes), altered positioning
Stability Assessment:
- Ask: “Does shoulder feel stable or loose?”
- Listen for: Clicking, clunking, grinding during movement
- Feel for: Excessive movement, subluxation sensation
Pain Scale: “Rate pain 0-10”
- 0-2: Normal post-submission feeling, safe to continue
- 3-5: Concerning, rest 5-10 minutes and retest
- 6-8: Stop training, apply ice, monitor for hour minimum
- 9-10: Seek medical attention, possible dislocation or tear
Special Check for Flexible Partners:
- “Any feeling of looseness or instability?” (capsule damage may not be painful)
- Check next day: “How did shoulder feel overnight and this morning?”
- Delayed onset pain common with capsule injuries in flexible individuals
If Any Concerns:
- Stop training immediately
- Apply ice (20 minutes on, 20 off)
- Avoid overhead activities
- Retest after 10-15 minutes rest
- Seek medical attention if: Pain 6+, unable to perform full ROM, visible deformity, feeling of instability, grinding/catching sensations
- Follow up next day - many shoulder injuries have delayed presentation
Total Assessment Time: 2-3 minutes minimum for thorough check (longer for any concerns).
Why It Matters: Reverse kimura has highest shoulder dislocation rate of common BJJ submissions. Many injuries are not immediately apparent - capsule damage, partial tears, subluxations can present with minimal initial pain. Thorough post-check catches problems before they become career-ending. The controlled arm lowering prevents secondary injury during release. How carefully you assess partner’s shoulder defines your reputation - safe partner vs dangerous partner.
Critical Understanding: Unlike armbars (immediate pain feedback) or chokes (quick recovery), shoulder injuries from reverse kimura can worsen over hours to days. Partner may feel “fine” immediately but have significant injury that presents next day. This is why thorough immediate assessment AND next-day follow-up are both important.
Audio & Narration Elements
Dramatic Commentary (For TTS/Game Narration)
Setup Phase:
“Blue has secured side control. White frames with the near arm, posting hand behind the back to create space - a common defensive structure. Blue recognizes the opportunity immediately. That posted arm is vulnerable. Blue threads the right arm under and through White’s bent arm. This is reverse kimura territory. The figure-four grip is being established - Blue’s hand finding the own wrist. The configuration is locking in.”
Tension Building:
“Blue has the figure-four secured. White’s right arm is trapped behind the back in that characteristic chicken wing position. White feels the control and realizes the danger - the arm can’t be pulled back. White tests a roll away - Blue adjusts weight and shuts it down. The position is locked. Now Blue begins the critical phase - the slow, controlled elevation. White’s hand starts moving up the back, inch by inch. The pressure is building on White’s shoulder. This is a vulnerable position for the shoulder joint - external rotation combined with elevation.”
Critical Moment:
“Blue continues the elevation steadily. White’s shoulder is approaching its natural range limit. You can see White testing the position - is there an escape? No technical escape exists now. White’s face shows concentration - recognizing the submission is inevitable. The hand has moved from mid-back up toward the shoulder blade. The shoulder is experiencing significant stress. White must decide: attempt a desperate escape that risks injury, or tap intelligently to preserve the shoulder.”
Tap Recognition:
“Tap tap tap! White’s left hand taps clearly on the mat - smart, early tap. White recognized the position was locked and the shoulder was approaching its limit. Blue responds perfectly - stops the elevation immediately, and critically, lowers White’s arm slowly back to a neutral position. No dropping the arm, complete control. Blue releases the figure-four grip and backs away. Now the mandatory shoulder check: ‘Shoulder okay? Can you rotate it?’ White performs external rotation test - smooth motion. Overhead reach - full range. Internal rotation - no problem. No pain, no instability. Clean technique, intelligent tap, proper release, thorough safety check. This is exemplary reverse kimura execution.”
Victory Declaration:
“And it’s over! Victory by reverse kimura! Blue executed a sophisticated shoulder lock with technical precision and safety awareness. From the moment White posted that hand behind the back, Blue controlled every phase - the arm threading, the figure-four grip establishment, the weight distribution preventing escape, and most critically, the slow, progressive elevation. White tapped intelligently, protecting long-term shoulder health. Blue released with perfect protocol - immediate stop, controlled lowering of the arm, thorough shoulder assessment. No injuries, both practitioners can continue training, and everyone witnessed high-level technique with exemplary safety. This is how the reverse kimura should be performed - effective control combined with partner protection. Impressive submission victory with professional-level safety standards.”
Expert Analysis:
“[Danaher voice] What we witnessed here represents technical maturity in application of shoulder locks. Notice Blue’s setup - the arm was positioned behind White’s back in perfect chicken wing configuration before elevation began. The figure-four grip was established completely before any pressure application. Most critically, observe the elevation speed. Blue took approximately five seconds from initiation to tap. Each increment of elevation was smooth and progressive. White had time to assess options, attempt technical escapes, and ultimately tap when recognizing the position was inevitable. The tap came before pain, before tissue stress approached dangerous levels, before any compromise of shoulder integrity. This is the distinction between winning the position and protecting the training partner - Blue did both. After release, notice Blue lowered White’s arm slowly rather than releasing and letting it fall. This controlled descent prevents secondary injury. The immediate shoulder assessment - external rotation test, overhead reach, stability check - demonstrated understanding that reverse kimura has high dislocation potential. Both practitioners demonstrated maturity: Blue’s slow application and thorough safety protocol, White’s intelligent early tap. This is elite-level training culture. The external rotation combined with elevation represents one of the shoulder’s most vulnerable mechanical positions. Blue’s respect for that vulnerability through controlled application is what separates technical practitioners from reckless ones.”
Technical Instruction (For Training Mode)
Setup Cues:
- “Identify opponent’s arm behind their back - posted hand, frame, or trailing arm”
- “Thread your arm under and through their bent arm”
- “Establish figure-four grip - your hand grips your own wrist securely”
- “Position their arm in chicken wing configuration - elbow bent ~90 degrees”
- “Secure your base - weight distributed to prevent rolling”
- “Verify arm position before applying pressure”
Execution Guidance:
- “Begin slow elevation - lifting arm toward opponent’s head”
- “Maintain elbow bend throughout - don’t let arm straighten”
- “Smooth, continuous upward motion - no jerking”
- “Watch opponent’s body language - stiffness indicates approaching limit”
- “Feel resistance through shoulder - smooth is normal, grinding is warning”
- “Listen for verbal tap continuously - primary signal”
- “Count in your head: one thousand, two thousand, three thousand, four thousand”
Safety Reminders:
- “Remember: 4-5 seconds minimum from lock to tap - slow elevation saves shoulders”
- “Verbal tap is PRIMARY - listen continuously”
- “Watch for unusual resistance - stop at grinding or catching sensations”
- “Never lift beyond partner’s natural range - flexibility is not safety”
- “Release immediately upon tap - then lower arm slowly”
- “Mandatory shoulder check after finish - external rotation and overhead reach tests”
Completion Confirmation:
- “Figure-four locked - excellent grip security and arm positioning”
- “Progressive elevation - building pressure slowly and steadily”
- “Feel the tap - verbal or physical, release immediately”
- “Lowering arm slowly - controlled descent, no dropping”
- “Submission complete - checking shoulder safety thoroughly”
- “Shoulder healthy - perfect controlled execution and proper care”
Educational Emphasis (For Training Content)
Safety First Messages:
“The reverse kimura is one of BJJ’s most effective shoulder locks, which also makes it one of the most dangerous. The combination of external rotation and elevation attacks the shoulder at its most vulnerable angle. The infraspinatus rotator cuff muscle, the posterior labrum, and the posterior capsule are all exposed to maximum stress. This submission has a higher shoulder dislocation rate than standard kimura. In training, your goal is to achieve the position, establish control, and threaten the submission. Finishing should be rare, slow, and only with partners whose shoulders you’ve assessed. The reverse kimura should create a tap through position recognition, not through pain. If your partner feels pain, you’ve already applied too much pressure. The goal is a tap to inevitability, not a tap to discomfort.”
Controlled Application:
“Slow means 4 to 5 seconds minimum from figure-four lock to tap. That’s a full second longer than most armbars or chokes. Why? Because the shoulder’s external rotation combined with elevation creates a perfect storm for dislocation with minimal warning. The shoulder can feel okay right up until the moment it dislocates - there’s often no gradual pain buildup like with other submissions. This makes slow, controlled application even more critical. Count slowly in your head during elevation: one thousand, two thousand, three thousand, four thousand, five thousand. That’s how long the lifting phase should take. If you’re finishing faster than this, slow down. Your training partner’s shoulder has to last them 40 years of training, lifting, and daily activities. Four seconds of patience protects four decades of shoulder function.”
Flexible Partner Warning:
“Special attention required for flexible training partners. Hypermobile individuals can move their shoulders through extreme ranges of motion without pain - this is not a sign of safety, it’s a sign of danger. Flexible partners are at highest risk for shoulder injuries from reverse kimura because their ligaments and capsules can stretch beyond recovery point before pain signals register. With flexible partners, you cannot trust pain feedback. You must use visual angle assessment and conservative stopping points. If your partner is flexible enough to touch their toes easily, do splits, or has general hypermobility, apply extra caution: slower elevation, more frequent verbal check-ins, and stop at conservative angles regardless of their feedback. A flexible partner saying ‘I’m fine, keep going’ is not reliable information. Use your judgment, protect their shoulders even if they say they’re comfortable. Many flexible practitioners suffer career-ending shoulder injuries because training partners trusted their pain feedback instead of using objective assessment.”
Learning Focus:
“The real value of the reverse kimura is positional. At high level, most reverse kimuras don’t finish as submissions - they finish as back takes, sweeps, or transitions to other attacks. Why? Because the threat of the submission creates panic, and panic creates opportunities. Learn to use reverse kimura as a control position first, submission second. Catch the position, establish the figure-four, threaten the elevation, and watch how your opponent reacts. Often they’ll give you their back, give you a sweep, or create openings for other attacks. You don’t need to finish the shoulder lock to win from this position. And honestly, this is safer training. You learn position recognition, control mechanics, and opportunity creation without the injury risk of repetitive finishing. If you do finish, finish slowly. But know that the best practitioners often don’t finish - they use the threat to advance position. That’s smarter BJJ and safer training.”
Injury Prevention:
“Shoulder injuries from reverse kimura typically happen in four scenarios: explosive elevation, finishing on flexible partners without extra care, training on previously dislocated shoulders, and dropping the arm during release. Prevent all four. Never elevate explosively - always 4-5+ seconds minimum. With flexible partners, use conservative stopping points and frequent verbal check-ins. Never apply reverse kimura to shoulders with dislocation history - re-dislocation rates are 40-90%. After tap, lower the arm slowly and controlled - don’t just release the grip and let it fall. If you get injured from reverse kimura, it’s usually because you or your partner skipped safety steps or misjudged flexibility. If you injure a partner, it’s almost always because you valued the tap over their shoulder health or didn’t adjust for their flexibility. Choose to be known as the person who catches beautiful reverse kimuras but always protects partner shoulders. That reputation will serve you far better than any submission highlight reel.”
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Internal Linking (Minimum 3-5)
- Side Control Top (S042) - primary setup position
- Kimura - related submission (opposite rotation direction)
- Americana - related shoulder lock
- North-South - alternative setup position
- Turtle Bottom - alternative setup position
- Crucifix Control - advanced setup variation
- Joint Lock Safety - underlying safety principles
- Shoulder Lock Concepts - conceptual framework for shoulder attacks
Remember: The reverse kimura attacks the shoulder’s most vulnerable position - external rotation combined with elevation. Master the position, respect the shoulder, protect your training partners. Slow elevation protects joints. Flexible partners need extra care. Both are non-negotiable.